Some CONTROVERSIAL stuff regarding USA presidential election including voter fraud allegations
Top 10 Hillary Clinton Myths Debunked, http://www.scarymommy.com/hillary-clinton-myths-debunked/
Hillary vs. the Hate Machine: How Clinton Became a Vessel for America's Fury, http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-vessel-for-americas-fury-w440914, Sept. 20th 2016
Article on Michael Moore's (who is against Trump) interview with Chuck Todd, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/02/michael_moore_trump_can_win_a_human_molotov_cocktail_to_throw_at_the_political_system.html.
The associated Chuck Todd interview of Michael Moore video, Michael Moore "TRUMP CAN WIN" Meet The Press FULL Interview 10/2/16 [Oct. 2nd 2016], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzYd0rC7aoU, 6 min. 30 secs.
Moore says in the above video, "I don't want him [Trump] to win. [Lets] just make that clear." .. "I was in Michigan and across the mid-West, across the rust belt, I understand why a lot of people are angry. And they see Donald Trump as their human Molotov cocktail that they can go into the voting booth on Nov. 8th and throw him into a political system that has made their lives miserable." .."I take this seriously now. Trump is not just --snip-- to me. I think that people see that maybe he is their messenger even though they don't necessarily like him or agree with him so much. I think that they love the idea of blowing up the system." ..
[On Newspaper editorials denouncing Trump, former Republican administration cabinet secretaries denouncing Trump possibly backfiring and re-inforcing Trump's message:] "I think a lot of people who have seen their livelihood vaporise, who are no longer part of the middle class, who are struggling to survive, pay no attention anymore to what the media or people in power (say). They have lost all credibility I think with a lot of people. I mean, just take from what happened (about) how we got into the Iraq war. Where was the media on that before the war? Where was the New York Times, for instance? Putting -name-snipped-'s stories is concocting weapons of mass destruction on the front page of their paper. Where was the media while Wall Street was creating this crisis that was about to happen? So people don't trust the media. They don't listen to it. And for good reason, because the media has let them down. (The) rich and the powerful have let them down. They used to believe in that. They used to vote for the rich and powerful. And a lot of them aren't going to do that this time. And they, for some strange reason, see Donald Trump (as their) means to get back (at) this system."
[On whether they will ever see Hillary Clinton as somebody who will change the system and make their lives better?] "I hope so." ... [On whether people trust Democrats] "I don't think people do trust the Democrats. How else could a socialist win 22 states? I mean, in my state of Michigan, Bernie Sanders won. (If) Hillary Clinton and the Democrats had a difficult time with him that should have been the red flag to everybody that there is a mood out there where people are upset at the Democrats and the Republicans. What has to happen here, though, like with the Brexit vote in England, is that people where I am from, have to understand that while they may not like Hillary that much or she may be a bitter pill to swallow or whatever, you better take your medicine because the opposite is going to be much, much worse."
.. "To be picking on the millennials is wrong. .. We were all 19. The last thing you want to do is to wag your finger, your adult finger at these millennials. They are upset at the whole thing. They are upset at the world that has been handed to them. And, you know, they didn't create the climate change. They didn't start the war. And now, it is like they have got to fix this election. ..I hope they (will vote for) Hillary Clinton. But the rest of us have to get out there and do what we have to do. "
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[Ravi: I CONDEMN the IRRESPONSIBLE tweet of Sheriff Clarke given below.]
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, County Sheriff David A. Clarke, Jr. [Speaker at Republican National Convention, Trump surrogate, African-American]
"It's incredible that our institutions of gov, WH, Congress, DOJ, and big media are corrupt & all we do is bitch. Pitchforks and torches time" [tweet has attached pic], https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/787314656641712128, published on Oct. 15th 2016
[Here's Sheriff Clarke's speech at RNC video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ghccQ58jHo, 8 min. 35 secs, published Jul 18th 2016.]
Newt Gingrich OWNS ABC News Martha Raddatz Over Anti-Trump Coverage, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_quS1ktFk, 8 min. 41 secs, published Oct. 16th 2016
Tweet from Donald Trump:
"Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!", https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787995025527410688, Oct. 17th 2016
Donald Trump's 'Rigged Election' Claims Raise Historical Alarms, http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-rigged-election-claims-raise-historical-alarms-n667831, Oct. 17th 2016
Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim of 'large scale voter fraud', http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/17/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-large-scale-voter-f/, Oct. 17th 2016
‘Sometimes the Crazies Bite’: CNN Shows Undercover Video of Democrats Plotting Trump Protests, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz7GaQYJ3zA, 8 min. 32 secs, Oct. 18th 2016
A video of Trump's campaign rally where he makes very strong vote-rigging allegations and system rigging. FULL EVENT: Donald Trump MASSIVE Rally in Grand Junction, Colorado 10/18/2016 Trump Colorado Speech, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9EOTQczRKA, around 50 mins.
A shorter video clip of similar Trump campaign event, Trump Just Dropped A Nuclear Bomb On Congress! We Have To Drain The Swamp!, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KEAJ5qxFJw, 8 min 16 secs, published on Oct. 18th 2016
Newt Gingrich on Huge Amount of Voter Fraud Being Discovered - October 18, 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMnn_aYlCA, 8 min 38 secs.
Here's Obama's strong criticism of Trump's "whining" if you did not see it: Obama to Trump: 'Stop Whining' About Unfounded Voter Fraud Claims, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k_wKzcbAeM, around 5 mins, published Oct. 18th 2016
Relevant extract from transcript of the associated press conference, https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/18/press-conference-president-obama-and-prime-minister-renzi-republic-italy :
Q Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to ask you about the election. Donald Trump is telling his supporters that the election is rigged, and asking them to monitor certain areas on Election Day. How concerned are you about the potential for violence? And what about after Election Day -- are you worried the results of the election may be distrusted?
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: One of the great things about America's democracy is we have a vigorous, sometimes bitter, political contest. And when it's done, historically, regardless of party, the person who loses the election congratulates the winner, reaffirms our democracy, and we move forward. That's how democracy survives, because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign -- and that is making sure that the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Because democracy, by definition, works by consent, not by force.
I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It's unprecedented. It happens to be based on no facts. Every expert, regardless of political party, regardless of ideology -- conservative or liberal -- who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found; that, keep in mind, elections are run by state and local officials, which means that there are places like Florida, for example, where you've got a Republican governor whose Republican appointees are going to be running and monitoring a whole bunch of these election sites. The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida it's because of those people that you have to watch out for -- that is both irresponsible, and, by the way, it doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you'd want out of a President.
If you start whining before the game is even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job. Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way, or my way. That’s okay. You fight through it, you work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.
But the larger point that I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so I’d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. And if he got the most votes, then it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to make sure that the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he’s said about me or my differences with him on my opinions, and escort him over to the Capitol, in which there would be a peaceful transfer of power.
That’s what Americans do. That’s why America is already great. One way of weakening America and making it less great is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries.
--- end extract from US president press conference ---
Donald Trump’s Call to Monitor Polls Raises Fears of Intimidation, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/donald-trump-voting-election-rigging.html, Oct. 18th 2016
Right-Wing Video Suggests D.N.C. Contractors Schemed to Incite Chaos at Donald Trump Rallies, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/us/politics/dnc-video-trump-rallies.html, Oct. 19th 2016
[***** Here are the links to the controversial and UNVERIFIED James O'Keefe (Project Vertias Action) videos referred to in the New York Times article above. The videos have graphic language so readers/viewers who are uncomfortable with graphic language may please skip viewing the videos. Note that there are allegations of lack of credibility (including morphing and inappropriate cut-and-paste of video segments to convey a false narrative) against James O'Keefe's reporting with some saying he is more of a right-wing political activist than a (neutral and credible) investigative journalist. Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY, 16 min 26 secs, published on Oct. 17th 2016. Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs, 16 min. 31 secs, published on Oct. 18th 2016. *****]
Please note that I have a PUBLICLY NEUTRAL informal-student-observer role in these posts that I put up about the USA presidential elections. Of course, as I am an Indian citizen living in India, there is no question of me voting in these elections.
[I thank Meet the Press - Chuck Todd, Michael Moore, whitehouse.gov and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above extract from their website on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
Hillary vs. the Hate Machine: How Clinton Became a Vessel for America's Fury, http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-vessel-for-americas-fury-w440914, Sept. 20th 2016
Article on Michael Moore's (who is against Trump) interview with Chuck Todd, http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/02/michael_moore_trump_can_win_a_human_molotov_cocktail_to_throw_at_the_political_system.html.
The associated Chuck Todd interview of Michael Moore video, Michael Moore "TRUMP CAN WIN" Meet The Press FULL Interview 10/2/16 [Oct. 2nd 2016], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzYd0rC7aoU, 6 min. 30 secs.
Moore says in the above video, "I don't want him [Trump] to win. [Lets] just make that clear." .. "I was in Michigan and across the mid-West, across the rust belt, I understand why a lot of people are angry. And they see Donald Trump as their human Molotov cocktail that they can go into the voting booth on Nov. 8th and throw him into a political system that has made their lives miserable." .."I take this seriously now. Trump is not just --snip-- to me. I think that people see that maybe he is their messenger even though they don't necessarily like him or agree with him so much. I think that they love the idea of blowing up the system." ..
[On Newspaper editorials denouncing Trump, former Republican administration cabinet secretaries denouncing Trump possibly backfiring and re-inforcing Trump's message:] "I think a lot of people who have seen their livelihood vaporise, who are no longer part of the middle class, who are struggling to survive, pay no attention anymore to what the media or people in power (say). They have lost all credibility I think with a lot of people. I mean, just take from what happened (about) how we got into the Iraq war. Where was the media on that before the war? Where was the New York Times, for instance? Putting -name-snipped-'s stories is concocting weapons of mass destruction on the front page of their paper. Where was the media while Wall Street was creating this crisis that was about to happen? So people don't trust the media. They don't listen to it. And for good reason, because the media has let them down. (The) rich and the powerful have let them down. They used to believe in that. They used to vote for the rich and powerful. And a lot of them aren't going to do that this time. And they, for some strange reason, see Donald Trump (as their) means to get back (at) this system."
[On whether they will ever see Hillary Clinton as somebody who will change the system and make their lives better?] "I hope so." ... [On whether people trust Democrats] "I don't think people do trust the Democrats. How else could a socialist win 22 states? I mean, in my state of Michigan, Bernie Sanders won. (If) Hillary Clinton and the Democrats had a difficult time with him that should have been the red flag to everybody that there is a mood out there where people are upset at the Democrats and the Republicans. What has to happen here, though, like with the Brexit vote in England, is that people where I am from, have to understand that while they may not like Hillary that much or she may be a bitter pill to swallow or whatever, you better take your medicine because the opposite is going to be much, much worse."
.. "To be picking on the millennials is wrong. .. We were all 19. The last thing you want to do is to wag your finger, your adult finger at these millennials. They are upset at the whole thing. They are upset at the world that has been handed to them. And, you know, they didn't create the climate change. They didn't start the war. And now, it is like they have got to fix this election. ..I hope they (will vote for) Hillary Clinton. But the rest of us have to get out there and do what we have to do. "
-----
[Ravi: I CONDEMN the IRRESPONSIBLE tweet of Sheriff Clarke given below.]
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, County Sheriff David A. Clarke, Jr. [Speaker at Republican National Convention, Trump surrogate, African-American]
"It's incredible that our institutions of gov, WH, Congress, DOJ, and big media are corrupt & all we do is bitch. Pitchforks and torches time" [tweet has attached pic], https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/787314656641712128, published on Oct. 15th 2016
[Here's Sheriff Clarke's speech at RNC video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ghccQ58jHo, 8 min. 35 secs, published Jul 18th 2016.]
Newt Gingrich OWNS ABC News Martha Raddatz Over Anti-Trump Coverage, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_quS1ktFk, 8 min. 41 secs, published Oct. 16th 2016
Tweet from Donald Trump:
"Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!", https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787995025527410688, Oct. 17th 2016
Donald Trump's 'Rigged Election' Claims Raise Historical Alarms, http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-rigged-election-claims-raise-historical-alarms-n667831, Oct. 17th 2016
Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim of 'large scale voter fraud', http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/17/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-large-scale-voter-f/, Oct. 17th 2016
‘Sometimes the Crazies Bite’: CNN Shows Undercover Video of Democrats Plotting Trump Protests, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz7GaQYJ3zA, 8 min. 32 secs, Oct. 18th 2016
A video of Trump's campaign rally where he makes very strong vote-rigging allegations and system rigging. FULL EVENT: Donald Trump MASSIVE Rally in Grand Junction, Colorado 10/18/2016 Trump Colorado Speech, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9EOTQczRKA, around 50 mins.
A shorter video clip of similar Trump campaign event, Trump Just Dropped A Nuclear Bomb On Congress! We Have To Drain The Swamp!, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KEAJ5qxFJw, 8 min 16 secs, published on Oct. 18th 2016
Newt Gingrich on Huge Amount of Voter Fraud Being Discovered - October 18, 2016, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMnn_aYlCA, 8 min 38 secs.
Here's Obama's strong criticism of Trump's "whining" if you did not see it: Obama to Trump: 'Stop Whining' About Unfounded Voter Fraud Claims, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k_wKzcbAeM, around 5 mins, published Oct. 18th 2016
Relevant extract from transcript of the associated press conference, https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/18/press-conference-president-obama-and-prime-minister-renzi-republic-italy :
Q Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to ask you about the election. Donald Trump is telling his supporters that the election is rigged, and asking them to monitor certain areas on Election Day. How concerned are you about the potential for violence? And what about after Election Day -- are you worried the results of the election may be distrusted?
..
PRESIDENT OBAMA: One of the great things about America's democracy is we have a vigorous, sometimes bitter, political contest. And when it's done, historically, regardless of party, the person who loses the election congratulates the winner, reaffirms our democracy, and we move forward. That's how democracy survives, because we recognize that there is something more important than any individual campaign -- and that is making sure that the integrity and trust in our institutions sustains itself. Because democracy, by definition, works by consent, not by force.
I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place. It's unprecedented. It happens to be based on no facts. Every expert, regardless of political party, regardless of ideology -- conservative or liberal -- who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found; that, keep in mind, elections are run by state and local officials, which means that there are places like Florida, for example, where you've got a Republican governor whose Republican appointees are going to be running and monitoring a whole bunch of these election sites. The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida it's because of those people that you have to watch out for -- that is both irresponsible, and, by the way, it doesn't really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you'd want out of a President.
If you start whining before the game is even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job. Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way, or my way. That’s okay. You fight through it, you work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.
But the larger point that I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so I’d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. And if he got the most votes, then it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to make sure that the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump, regardless of what he’s said about me or my differences with him on my opinions, and escort him over to the Capitol, in which there would be a peaceful transfer of power.
That’s what Americans do. That’s why America is already great. One way of weakening America and making it less great is if you start betraying those basic American traditions that have been bipartisan and have helped to hold together this democracy now for well over two centuries.
--- end extract from US president press conference ---
Donald Trump’s Call to Monitor Polls Raises Fears of Intimidation, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/donald-trump-voting-election-rigging.html, Oct. 18th 2016
Right-Wing Video Suggests D.N.C. Contractors Schemed to Incite Chaos at Donald Trump Rallies, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/us/politics/dnc-video-trump-rallies.html, Oct. 19th 2016
[***** Here are the links to the controversial and UNVERIFIED James O'Keefe (Project Vertias Action) videos referred to in the New York Times article above. The videos have graphic language so readers/viewers who are uncomfortable with graphic language may please skip viewing the videos. Note that there are allegations of lack of credibility (including morphing and inappropriate cut-and-paste of video segments to convey a false narrative) against James O'Keefe's reporting with some saying he is more of a right-wing political activist than a (neutral and credible) investigative journalist. Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY, 16 min 26 secs, published on Oct. 17th 2016. Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs, 16 min. 31 secs, published on Oct. 18th 2016. *****]
Please note that I have a PUBLICLY NEUTRAL informal-student-observer role in these posts that I put up about the USA presidential elections. Of course, as I am an Indian citizen living in India, there is no question of me voting in these elections.
[I thank Meet the Press - Chuck Todd, Michael Moore, whitehouse.gov and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above extract from their website on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
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