Final USA presidential debate; Trump says election is rigged, implies he may not accept election result; Clinton is horrified & appalled
Final USA presidential debate, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye0Xblp_Nb0, nearly 2 hours with the debate part getting over around 1 hr, 40 mins
Given below is the transcript of segment from 1 hr 4 min 50 secs in above video, which has Mr. Trump keeping USA people in suspense over whether he will accept the election result and the horrified and "appalled" reaction of (former) Secretary Hillary Clinton to it.
Moderator, Chris Wallace: Mr. Trump, I want to ask you about one last question in this topic. You have been warning at rallies recently that this election is rigged and that Hillary Clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from you.
Your running mate, Governor Pence, pledged on Sunday that he and you - his words - "will absolutely accept the result of this election." Today your daughter, Ivanka, said the same thing. I want to ask you here on the stage tonight: Do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely - sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election?
Donald Trump: I will look at it at the time. I'm not looking at anything now. I'll look at it at the time. What I've seen - what I've seen is so bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt, and the pile-on is so amazing. The New York Times actually wrote an article about it, but they don't even care. It's so dishonest. And they've poisoned the minds of the voters.
But unfortunately for them, I think the voters are seeing through it. I think they're going to see through it. We'll find out on November 8th. But I think they're going to see through it.
Wallace: But, sir, there's...
Trump: If you look - excuse me, Chris - if you look at your voter rolls, you will see millions of people that are registered to vote - millions, this isn't coming from me - this is coming from Pew Report and other places - millions of people that are registered to vote that shouldn't be registered to vote.
So let me just give you one other thing. So I talk about the corrupt media. I talk about the millions of people - tell you one other thing. She shouldn't be allowed to run. It's crooked - she's - she's guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should not be allowed to run.
And just in that respect, I say it's rigged, because she should never...
Wallace: But...
Trump: Chris, she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with e-mails and so many other things.
Wallace: But, sir, there is a tradition in this country - in fact, one of the prides of this country - is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard-fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign that the loser concedes to the winner. Not saying that you're necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. Are you saying you're not prepared now to commit to that principle?
Trump: What I'm saying is that I will tell you at the time. I'll keep you in suspense. OK?
Hillary Clinton: Well, Chris, let me respond to that, because that's horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is, is rigged against him.
The FBI conducted a year-long investigation into my e-mails. They concluded there was no case; he said the FBI was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus. He lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged against him. Then Trump University gets sued for fraud and racketeering; he claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. There was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged against him.
Trump: Should have gotten it.
(Laughter)
Clinton: This is - this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling.
Wallace: OK.
Clinton: That is not the way our democracy works. We've been around for two hundred and forty years. We've had free and fair elections. We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. You know, President Obama said the other day when you're whining before the game is even finished...
Wallace: Hold on, folks. Hold on, folks.
Clinton: .. it just shows you're not up to doing the job. And let's, you know, let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating - he's talking down our democracy. And I, for one, am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position.
Trump: I think what the FBI did and what the Department of Justice did, including meeting with [Ravi: between] her husband [Ravi: and] the attorney general, in the back of an airplane on the tarmac in Arizona, I think it's disgraceful. I think it's a disgrace.
Wallace: All right.
Trump: I think we've never had a situation so bad in this country.
(Applause)
Wallace: Hold on, folks. This doesn't do any good for anyone. Let's please continue the debate, and let's move on to the subject of foreign hot spots.
--- end transcript of debate segment---
Some articles on it:
Donald Trump Won’t Say if He’ll Accept Result of Election, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/us/politics/presidential-debate.html, Oct. 19th 2016. A short extract from it, "In a remarkable statement that seemed to cast doubt on American democracy, Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he might not accept the results of next month’s election if he felt it was rigged against him — a stand that Hillary Clinton blasted as “horrifying” at their final and caustic debate on Wednesday."
Donald Trump refuses to say whether he'll accept election results, http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/presidential-debate-highlights/, Oct. 20th 2016. A short extract from it, "Donald Trump on Wednesday refused to say he would accept the result of the presidential election if he loses to Hillary Clinton, raising the possibility of an extraordinary departure from principles that have underpinned American democracy for more than two centuries."
Article by The New York Times Editorial Board: Donald Trump’s Contempt for Democracy, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/opinion/donald-trump-attacks-democracy-itself.html, Oct. 19th 2016. Two small extracts from it, "Donald Trump turned, in the third and final presidential debate, from insulting the intelligence of the American voter to insulting American democracy itself. He falsely insisted there were “millions of people” registered to participate in the election who did not have the right to vote and declared he would not commit to honoring the outcome." .. "Mr. Trump’s meltdown in the closing weeks could be dismissed as a sore loser’s bizarre attempt at rationalizing his likely defeat. But his trashing of the democratic process, in service of his own ego, risks lasting damage to the country, and politicians of both parties should recoil from him and his cynical example."
Article by the Washington Post's Editorial Board: Trump’s breathtaking repudiation of American democracy, https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-breathtaking-repudiation-of-american-democracy/2016/10/19/3a7e69c2-966f-11e6-9b7c-57290af48a49_story.html, Oct. 19th 2016. A small extract from it, "Ms. Clinton rightly called his stance a “horrifying” repudiation of U.S. democracy. Respecting the will of the voters has since the end of the Civil War allowed for a peaceful transition of power that has made this country the envy of the world."
Here's a full transcript (annotated) of the debate, The final Trump-Clinton debate transcript, annotated, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/19/the-final-trump-clinton-debate-transcript-annotated/, Oct. 19th 2016
Please note that I have a PUBLICLY NEUTRAL informal-student-observer role in these posts that I put up about the USA presidential elections. Of course, as I am an Indian citizen living in India, there is no question of me voting in these elections.
Given below is the transcript of segment from 1 hr 4 min 50 secs in above video, which has Mr. Trump keeping USA people in suspense over whether he will accept the election result and the horrified and "appalled" reaction of (former) Secretary Hillary Clinton to it.
Moderator, Chris Wallace: Mr. Trump, I want to ask you about one last question in this topic. You have been warning at rallies recently that this election is rigged and that Hillary Clinton is in the process of trying to steal it from you.
Your running mate, Governor Pence, pledged on Sunday that he and you - his words - "will absolutely accept the result of this election." Today your daughter, Ivanka, said the same thing. I want to ask you here on the stage tonight: Do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely - sir, that you will absolutely accept the result of this election?
Donald Trump: I will look at it at the time. I'm not looking at anything now. I'll look at it at the time. What I've seen - what I've seen is so bad. First of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt, and the pile-on is so amazing. The New York Times actually wrote an article about it, but they don't even care. It's so dishonest. And they've poisoned the minds of the voters.
But unfortunately for them, I think the voters are seeing through it. I think they're going to see through it. We'll find out on November 8th. But I think they're going to see through it.
Wallace: But, sir, there's...
Trump: If you look - excuse me, Chris - if you look at your voter rolls, you will see millions of people that are registered to vote - millions, this isn't coming from me - this is coming from Pew Report and other places - millions of people that are registered to vote that shouldn't be registered to vote.
So let me just give you one other thing. So I talk about the corrupt media. I talk about the millions of people - tell you one other thing. She shouldn't be allowed to run. It's crooked - she's - she's guilty of a very, very serious crime. She should not be allowed to run.
And just in that respect, I say it's rigged, because she should never...
Wallace: But...
Trump: Chris, she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with e-mails and so many other things.
Wallace: But, sir, there is a tradition in this country - in fact, one of the prides of this country - is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard-fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign that the loser concedes to the winner. Not saying that you're necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. Are you saying you're not prepared now to commit to that principle?
Trump: What I'm saying is that I will tell you at the time. I'll keep you in suspense. OK?
Hillary Clinton: Well, Chris, let me respond to that, because that's horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is, is rigged against him.
The FBI conducted a year-long investigation into my e-mails. They concluded there was no case; he said the FBI was rigged. He lost the Iowa caucus. He lost the Wisconsin primary. He said the Republican primary was rigged against him. Then Trump University gets sued for fraud and racketeering; he claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. There was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged against him.
Trump: Should have gotten it.
(Laughter)
Clinton: This is - this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling.
Wallace: OK.
Clinton: That is not the way our democracy works. We've been around for two hundred and forty years. We've had free and fair elections. We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. You know, President Obama said the other day when you're whining before the game is even finished...
Wallace: Hold on, folks. Hold on, folks.
Clinton: .. it just shows you're not up to doing the job. And let's, you know, let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating - he's talking down our democracy. And I, for one, am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position.
Trump: I think what the FBI did and what the Department of Justice did, including meeting with [Ravi: between] her husband [Ravi: and] the attorney general, in the back of an airplane on the tarmac in Arizona, I think it's disgraceful. I think it's a disgrace.
Wallace: All right.
Trump: I think we've never had a situation so bad in this country.
(Applause)
Wallace: Hold on, folks. This doesn't do any good for anyone. Let's please continue the debate, and let's move on to the subject of foreign hot spots.
--- end transcript of debate segment---
Some articles on it:
Donald Trump Won’t Say if He’ll Accept Result of Election, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/us/politics/presidential-debate.html, Oct. 19th 2016. A short extract from it, "In a remarkable statement that seemed to cast doubt on American democracy, Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he might not accept the results of next month’s election if he felt it was rigged against him — a stand that Hillary Clinton blasted as “horrifying” at their final and caustic debate on Wednesday."
Donald Trump refuses to say whether he'll accept election results, http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/presidential-debate-highlights/, Oct. 20th 2016. A short extract from it, "Donald Trump on Wednesday refused to say he would accept the result of the presidential election if he loses to Hillary Clinton, raising the possibility of an extraordinary departure from principles that have underpinned American democracy for more than two centuries."
Article by The New York Times Editorial Board: Donald Trump’s Contempt for Democracy, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/opinion/donald-trump-attacks-democracy-itself.html, Oct. 19th 2016. Two small extracts from it, "Donald Trump turned, in the third and final presidential debate, from insulting the intelligence of the American voter to insulting American democracy itself. He falsely insisted there were “millions of people” registered to participate in the election who did not have the right to vote and declared he would not commit to honoring the outcome." .. "Mr. Trump’s meltdown in the closing weeks could be dismissed as a sore loser’s bizarre attempt at rationalizing his likely defeat. But his trashing of the democratic process, in service of his own ego, risks lasting damage to the country, and politicians of both parties should recoil from him and his cynical example."
Article by the Washington Post's Editorial Board: Trump’s breathtaking repudiation of American democracy, https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-breathtaking-repudiation-of-american-democracy/2016/10/19/3a7e69c2-966f-11e6-9b7c-57290af48a49_story.html, Oct. 19th 2016. A small extract from it, "Ms. Clinton rightly called his stance a “horrifying” repudiation of U.S. democracy. Respecting the will of the voters has since the end of the Civil War allowed for a peaceful transition of power that has made this country the envy of the world."
Here's a full transcript (annotated) of the debate, The final Trump-Clinton debate transcript, annotated, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/19/the-final-trump-clinton-debate-transcript-annotated/, Oct. 19th 2016
Please note that I have a PUBLICLY NEUTRAL informal-student-observer role in these posts that I put up about the USA presidential elections. Of course, as I am an Indian citizen living in India, there is no question of me voting in these elections.
[I thank Commission on Presidential Debates (http://www.debates.org/), nytimes.com, cnn.com and washingtonpost.com and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above transcript-segment and short extracts from their youtube video and/or websites, on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
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